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Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2 - Altavoces para estantería, Color Negro (par) (Reacondicionado)

Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2 - Altavoces para estantería, Color Negro (par) (Reacondicionado)

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Raf
2.0 de 5 estrellas Too Much publicity about nothing....!!!! I don't like them....!!!!
Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 15 de marzo de 2019
Estilo: ParCompra verificada
Too Much publicity about nothing....!!!! I don't like them....!!!! I have tried them with my Emotiva amplifier and they did not sound well, I have connected them to my Harman Kardon amplifier and they still don't sound right to me. I have broken them in for one full month of listening.... I have tried with different cables.... I have moved them around working with bass-traps and a multitude of configurations and speaker-placement and I still don't enjoy the sound they produce....!!!
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Mark
2.0 de 5 estrellas better than most.. sort of..update again
Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 22 de agosto de 2021
Estilo: ParCompra verificada
These are nice. I have not cranked em up yet, but at low volumes You will need an EQ to get the full range of the bass.. highs are great. Sub woofers are lame so id go with an EQ.. They are paired with my Tannoy Fusion 2's.. The Tannoys blow these away. but for what I am using them for, its good..the Elacs are for movies... Tannoy fusion 2's for tunes..
over all, for 250 bucks your not gonna do much better..
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These suck. flat, zero range, just flat out crap.. no depth, no range, bass is contrived sounding..no mid, treble is hollow... go with KLH, or Tannoy... unreal how these are getting anything above 3 stars..
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P. Philips
2.0 de 5 estrellas "The Emperor's New Clothes" or don't trust all the hype.
Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 10 de enero de 2020
Estilo: ParCompra verificada
Although the ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 Bookshelf Speakers have received fanatical praise in the media, I shall be a dissenting voice. In theory, they should sound great. In actual experience, while not dreadful they really are horrible reproducing voice, and even orchestral music (for example Holst: The Planets/R.Strauss: Also Sprach Zarathustra [CD/Blu-Ray Audio Combo] of the Boston Symphony conducted by William Steinberg).

Gary V 3.0 in his review wrote, "Voices sound like people are holding a cardboard tube between them and the microphone" and he's right. I get no sense of depth, detail, air, and emotional power, since it's so artificial.

If you're on a budget, find a pair of Dynaco A10s in good condition on eBay; they can be equalized for greater highs (I use an Emotiva UMC-200) and drop in replacement tweeters with extended highs are available from Madisound. They sell a Vifva tweeter, which like the Elac is made in China (see my review) but it sounds far better than the Elac's, although on paper its specs aren't as "good" as the brochure description.

If you have the money, consider purchasing the SEAS A26 (only in an easy to assemble kit form, just screw in parts), the 21st century successor to the million unit selling classic Dyanco A25. Madisound has it but doesn't sell it through their Amazon storefront but through their site. Also, consider Human Speakers (not an Amazon vendor) that is the 21st century upgrade of the Consumer Reports top rated and also a cult classic EPI line. While there are kits, the Model 81 and 61 (with a 6 inch woofer) are worth considering and although more expensive, they're custom crafted.

Specs and brochure are nice; but 35KHZ (while Red Book CD maxes out at 20KHZ) is just hype.

I discussed the Elac with a prominent, highly respected (and very nice people!) high end audiophile firm that sells this it with an affordable electronics product they manufacture; the Sale's Rep who answered the phone said, "They're only so much you can do [in 21st century depreciated dollars] at this price point" and my observation that the Elac is mediocre is correct; they'll be building their own speaker but it will be priced around $1,000/pair.

So, Caveat Emptor; you get what you pay for. Be wary of too much hype. They're not a total loss; they're OK for height speakers using Dolby Prologic IIZ on my Emotiva to stream Amazon Prime mind candy spectaculars. So I guess Jack Ryan won't sound badly on these when it comes to height effects; the music. however, no, not so much.

What's wonderful if you buy from Amazon, like I did, you can return them if you don't like them. This is why I love Amazon!

If these are the best that's out there--at least they're not bright--think of it this way. Boeing built the 747 using slide rules; it was just about a perfect machine. Then with state of the art computer tech, they created this century the 737 Max; just look at the engines, how grotesquely out of proportion they are. You don't need an engineering degree to realize something was out of whack. The proportions are all wrong, so of course there'd be an imbalance. Of course, I use the Boeing 737 Max as a metaphor for high tech design versus old fashioned, careful, passionate thought.

The Elac is the 737 Max of loudspeakers. I hate to think how bad most other currently manufactured loudspeakers are for the rave reviews, especially by customers. I don't completely hate it, but the Elac is pretty pathetic. I have no idea what the reviewers who gushed over it are thinking. Really. Steve Guttenberg liked the earlier version of the speaker; he has a wonderful CD to test your system, "Ultimate Demonstration Disc: Chesky Records' Guide to Critical Listening" and it's well worth getting. I have no idea why he gushes over the Elacs. Really. I'd love to ask. The Elacs have a distinctive "hollow" sound. Maybe the spirit of T.S. Eliot had something to do with them, I've no idea.

I do have for height Elac designer's Andrew Jones designed Pioneer SP-T22A-LR Add-on speaker that have no bass below 150hz; and *they* did a better job reproducing voice but still sounded "hollow" too.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-T22A-LR-Speaker-designed-Andrew/dp/B0148NPHO8

But the drivers are from Pioneer.

I much prefer, although they cannot play as loud, the Dayton Audio B652-AIR 6-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker with AMT Tweeter Pair, which I'll be reviewing here shortly. Just get a good sub.

https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-AIR-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00NOA58RS
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2.0 de 5 estrellas Very surprised. Not very good.
Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 23 de agosto de 2021
Estilo: ParCompra verificada
I bought these Elac Debut 2.0's at Amazon because they were $150+/_ cheaper than elsewhere. Read online reviews and seemed OK. I also bought a set of Cambridge SX-50's to compare. Using a Cambridge AXR100 receiver in a home office. The sound out of the Elacs was very thin. Too much high end frequency. Bass was really lacking. The SX-50 have a fuller sound but needed a bit more bass. I test both using a Schiit Audio Loki equalizer. the SX-50 were helped with a bit more bass. I never really got the Elacs to sound very well. I tested both on my main system, an Outlaw receiver and Klipsch RB-61 II. The SX-50's did surprising well but with the lack of bass due to their size. The Elac's had a totally different sound. To thin, to high. With the Outlaw they really sounded bad.
I sent them back.
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2.0 de 5 estrellas These do not "pair" well with other speakers for Home Theater.
Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 29 de septiembre de 2021
Estilo: ParCompra verificada
I used these with a Yamaha 5.1 receiver in front and then ,in back, with other speakers (BIC America DV62si, Polk Audio S20 Signature). Being budget conscious, and believing the hype, I spent the extra money on these thinking it would be the "next step up". The other speakers were much more lively (more bass and treble response), more defined, and just plain louder. I will try these alone with another Yamaha receiver that's just stereo and see if they're better for that...but for now I'm really turned off on what I believe might be the reason these speakers are so expensive. To pay for all the hype.
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JVoorhees
2.0 de 5 estrellas Keep Looking
Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 12 de agosto de 2021
Estilo: ParCompra verificada
These speakers didn't sound very good. The sound is kind of flat and definitely needs more bass to be usable. Not sure if they were damaged in transit because the box looked like it had been dropped. I think you can find better speakers for around the same price.
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JW
2.0 de 5 estrellas Did not meet expectations
Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 7 de marzo de 2022
Estilo: ParCompra verificada
These speakers sounded so hollow they were not good. Other reviews had a good experience with them so this may be the exception to the rule. They just did work for me.
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2.0 de 5 estrellas ok sound
Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 21 de febrero de 2020
Estilo: ParCompra verificada
not real good sound, but ok for the money. No real bass to talk about. Have to turn treble all the way up to get descent treble sound.
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2.0 de 5 estrellas OK, if you don't know Audio!
Reseñado en los Estados Unidos el 22 de agosto de 2018
Estilo: ParCompra verificada
Sadly disappointed in these speakers. They require a lot of power being 4 ohm, they can play loud, but lack detail and clarity, out of the box, I thought they sounded ok, but when listening to them side by side not so good. As a collector of many vintage speakers every once in a while I fall into the hype of wanting the latest and greatest, after reading tons of reviews and watching all the audiophiles say on youtube, how great these are, I took the bait. They fell short in my expectations, not that they sound awful but how much better some of my very inexpensive old speakers sounded way better. These speakers sound like they are computer or gamers speakers when compared to an older 3 way speakers such as Accoustic Design PS 10'S for instance, you can still pick these up on Ebay, for under $200.00 and they sound so much better and they're 30 some years old.
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